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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Dec 7, 2011 8:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show You've Been To? Dead-related

Were the stadiums always much louder? For example if they went from Radio City, to MSG on the same tour, could you expect the MSG show to be much louder?

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 7, 2011 9:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

12-26-79 has a unique story behind its introduction of the Meyer hd 1 sound

Reviewer: Mark Scalise - - June 29, 2010
Subject: searching for the sound
This show also premiered the first of the great Meyer/UltraSound PAs. Excerpt from http://mixonline.com/live/applications/audio_necessity_mothers_invention/

As it turned out, for the grand experimenters, even the best rental systems didn't suffice. For the Dead's 1979 New Years Eve show at Oakland Auditorium, Healy and Starship soundman Don Pearson pooled their favorite components. The resulting five-way stereo system took days to assemble. Among other features, it had specially welded frames that held giant tweeter arrays. Horseshoe magnets served as air-motion [ribbon] transformers that were assembled in long vertical arrays and hung from scaffolding. Pearson says, “We built custom crossovers so we could align the individual components in time. It was, actually, the first-ever Time-Aligned™ live sound system.” [Eds. note: Time-Aligned™ is a trademark of E.M. Long and Associates.] It was also, according to Healy, such a great-sounding system that “we decided to get back into the business.”

“It was probably the best-sounding P.A. we ever did — to date!” adds Pearson. “It's interesting to note that back then we were working on a technology design that just now is becoming very in vogue. We're currently seeing the advent of ribbon speakers, something we were using in 1978!”

The system put together that night evolved into a company owned by Pearson and Howard Danchik that serviced both the Dead and Starship. In 1979, Meyer's newly patented ACD studio monitors caught the ears of Starship and their monitor mixer, Owsley Stanley; the reaction was immediate. “Owsley went out and raised capital for us to build the first Ultra Monitors for Starship,” says Pearson. “They were John Meyer's first official product. Then we built Starship a P.A. and then the Dead had to have one.”


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I pasted that in from a review I remember reading a while back.

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 7, 2011 9:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

My first show was 9 months later in lewiston, Maine.
9-6-80, which was THE loudest dead show i ever attended.

The deads sound in general was very very different show to show, night to night year to year. I found myself wanting and a little aggravated with the consistency of what their system sounded like to my ears. I always wanted more volume. You had to search out the the sweet spot, stadium shows you just had to be down low and that sound was easily the cleanest deepest I have ever heard. hockey barn/ theatre shows were more strict on the seating policy's? You could get fucked in the netherzones rather easily. I remember a behind the stage ticket that
Actually sounded great.

Cal expo may have been the tops
Deer creek was loud especially outside on the lawn right below the repeaters, merriweather esque
Spectrum was the worst sounding shows for me, Always
Nassau was better than average for the barns
Boston Garden descent not great





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Poster: cberg Date: Dec 8, 2011 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

agreed...cal expo...the best!!

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Dec 8, 2011 11:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

Greek Theater in Berkely had the best sound, hands down, nothing even close. If you got one of the thrones in the middle you were in sonic heaven! Almost like full body headphones.

The Philthy Rectum definitly sounded horrible. Great shows, but you had to work for it.

I had experiences at MSG where it was not loud enough, we would cup our hands behind the ears and focus the sound in order to block out the yackers and sing-alongs, not to mention the white guy got no rythmn clappers.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 8, 2011 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

I agree re Greek and Spectrum, but I found MSG to have great sound on the floor (was a few rows in front of soundboard for the LaBamba/Dew show).

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 8, 2011 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

Ha ha, yea I remember cupping my ears too!